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Scalar as A One-Dimensional Vector
« pada: Juli 20, 2018, 12:23:31 PM »
Terpujilah Kristus.

Excuse me ... .

I have a question about scalar quantity ... .

Can a scalar be regarded as a one-dimensional vector ... ?

For example, the continuum electric charge q is a scalar quantity which can be regarded to have two directions in real line R, namely, the positive direction (q>0) and the negative direction (q<0) ... .

In Lagrangian Mechanics, an electrical system can be analogized as a mechanical system, with the electric charge q as a generalized co-ordinate, and I:=˙q:=dq/dt as a generalized velocity ... .

Suppose that here is an electrical circuit which consists of an inductor of inductance L constant and a voltage source φ as function of time t ... .

The Lagrangian of such system is L:=12L˙q2+qφ ... .

The Euler-Lagrange’s equation of this system is

Lq=ddtL˙q
as its equation of motion ... .

Thus, the Newton’s second law for this electrical circuit is φ=L¨qLdI/dt, where L can be analogized as constant mass, and φ can be analogized as time-dependent-force ... .

Thank you for the answer ... . :)

Terpujilah Kristus.



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Re:Scalar as A One-Dimensional Vector
« Jawab #1 pada: Juli 20, 2018, 12:33:20 PM »
Hosana in excelcis.

Kutip dari: Markus Hanke;411740
In the general case, the magnitude of a vector, in my mind, should depend on the coordinate system chosen, even in one dimension.

Thanks ... . :)  In my mind, the charge plays a role as a “vector” in “charge-space” but not in configuration-space ... . The charge plays a role as a scalar in configuration space ... .

In the “charge-space”, the magnitude of “vector charge” depends on choosing "charge co-ordinate system" ... . But, in the configuration space, the value of the charge (as a scalar) does not depend on choosing co-ordinate system ... . :)

The “charge-space” is different from the configuration space ... , as “momentum-space” which is part of “classical-phase-space” ... .

I’m sorry if my opinion was wrong ... .

http://www.thescienceforum.com/physics/35119-scalar-one-dimensional-vector.html#post411784

Gloria in excelsis Deo.



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j=01j!(nj)!=2nn!